How can we pretend to be against abuses of human rights in China and elsewhere when we ourselves are treating others worse than animals?
Our military is torturing people to death.
The majority of the torture photos were admittedly never released.
Our nation has sunken to a new level of despotism.
The government has begun the torture and killing of US citizens whom it has labeled domestic terrorists. (Homeland Security has a broad definition of potential US terrorists)
The majority of the torture photos were admittedly never released.
Our nation has sunken to a new level of despotism.
The government has begun the torture and killing of US citizens whom it has labeled domestic terrorists. (Homeland Security has a broad definition of potential US terrorists)
It is apparent to me and others that our nation has been taken over by a well organized shadow government controlled by international bankers.
We were warned about these people by Presidents Eisenhower and Kennedy. I believe that the last real US President was Kennedy. Since then, the two party system has been a false paradigm.
We were warned about these people by Presidents Eisenhower and Kennedy. I believe that the last real US President was Kennedy. Since then, the two party system has been a false paradigm.
It doesn’t matter if they govern from the left or from the right; the President is a minion of the banking interests – a glorified teleprompter reader with handlers who keep him in line.
We see continuity of the destructive policies initiated by the corrupt Bush administration being continued by Obama,
despite Obama’s pre-election rhetoric that he would stop the hiring of lobbyists, torture, secret arrests, the wars, hiring of Wall Street crooks, signing statements, secret meetings, Patriot Act and so on.
despite Obama’s pre-election rhetoric that he would stop the hiring of lobbyists, torture, secret arrests, the wars, hiring of Wall Street crooks, signing statements, secret meetings, Patriot Act and so on.
Regarding Ron Paul, calling Ron Paul a fraud is ludicrous because he always without exception votes on the side of constitutional rights. He is considered a man of integrity in both parties. His decision on abortion is that he considers the unborn’s right to life to trump the individual’s right to choose.
I understand his logic, whether I agree or not.
I understand his logic, whether I agree or not.
Regarding the Bush/Cheney impeachment, Democratic leaders never accepted any notion of impeachment of Cheney or Bush and considered it an irresponsible move supported only by the far left.
There was no vote in Congress to impeach Bush or Cheney - the impeachment resolutions were in the hands of the Judiciary Committee where no action was taken on them.
(If it were up to me though, I would try them both for crimes against humanity.)
There was no vote in Congress to impeach Bush or Cheney - the impeachment resolutions were in the hands of the Judiciary Committee where no action was taken on them.
(If it were up to me though, I would try them both for crimes against humanity.)
Ron Paul was the only one in Congress warning us repeatedly of the derivatives and the housing bubble before it happened. People called him a kook because at the time people were making money and everything looked rosy. Ron Paul from day one stood against his party and was adamantly against the wars.
Ron Paul's position has been consistently pro US Constitution. In my opinion, Ron Paul is the only candidate who would remove torture because he has spoken out against it so adamantly for so long.
He sees that the recent law changes that support torture, secret prisons, and a police state are very dangerous, immoral and unconstitutional and will possibly lead to being used against us! He believes there are other ways to get information without sacrificing our principles and the rule of law.
Ron Paul's position has been consistently pro US Constitution. In my opinion, Ron Paul is the only candidate who would remove torture because he has spoken out against it so adamantly for so long.
He said the Iraq and Afghanistan wars would end up a quagmire and that cost estimates were grossly understated.
He also claimed that our invasion would lead to Russia’s invasion of Georgia, and he said that 5 years before it actually happened (and everyone thought he was crazy.)
He also claimed that our invasion would lead to Russia’s invasion of Georgia, and he said that 5 years before it actually happened (and everyone thought he was crazy.)
Bottom line is that the establishment is afraid of him.
He won the Iowa straw poll and pulled in 2.75 million dollars in his money bomb, more than any candidate.
He is denied interviews and given the least amount of time allowed in the debates. Top tier candidate, dead last in time. This should be a concern to every citizen regardless of your views, that the media would so blatantly steer people away from someone. I believe it’s the same people steering people away from 9/11 truth.
He won the Iowa straw poll and pulled in 2.75 million dollars in his money bomb, more than any candidate.
He is denied interviews and given the least amount of time allowed in the debates. Top tier candidate, dead last in time. This should be a concern to every citizen regardless of your views, that the media would so blatantly steer people away from someone. I believe it’s the same people steering people away from 9/11 truth.
Regarding Libertarianism I could write much on that though it would be much more valuable and interesting just to read anything that Thomas Jefferson wrote. He definitely lived based on the principles in line with Libertarianism.
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Note: The above is from an email of a friend who is impressed by verifiable evidence, not by theories that contradict evidence.
Those who want to stop torture - vote Ron Paul.This was posted in 2009 at: http://thedemocraticactivist.
blogspot.com/ Demand a special prosecutor!
Unbelievably ... America chose to join the cabal of torturing nations
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The true stories of how American troops, killed in Iraq, actually died keep spilling out this week. Now we learn, thanks to a reporter's FOIA request, that one of the first women to die in Iraq shot and killed herself after objecting to harsh "interrogation techniques."
From a recent article by Greg Mitchell appearing in The Huffington Post:
Appalled when ordered to take part in interrogations that, no doubt, involved what we would call torture, [Alyssa] refused, then killed herself a few days later, in September 2003.
"Peterson objected to the interrogation techniques used on prisoners. She refused to participate after only two nights working in the unit known as the cage. Army spokespersons for her unit have refused to describe the interrogation techniques Alyssa objected to. They say all records of those techniques have now been destroyed."
The official probe of her death would later note that earlier she had been "reprimanded" for showing "empathy" for the prisoners. One of the most moving parts of the report, in fact, is this: "She said that she did not know how to be two people; she ... could not be one person in the cage and another outside the wire."
The U.S. military lied about Alyssa's death, and tried for years to cover up the truth and keep even her own parents in the dark about how she died. Eventually, our government was forced to admit the facts about what had happened to Alyssa.
It's an incredible, awful, and heart-wrenching story, particularly for Mormons, particularly right now, as the spotlight of truth finally begins to fully illuminate the abject prevarication, gutless terror, and brutal depravity of the Bush/Cheney torture program and the horrible crimes committed under their orders in the name of all Americans.
Click here and here to read about Alyssa's story.
Critically important is the recently revealed fact that the Bush/Cheney torture program was originated and conducted for a purely political purpose. America's "enhance interrogation program" was not, as we've been deceitfully assured for so long, implemented to "save American lives" and to "prevent another terrorist attack on U.S. soil."
Not at all.
Contrary to the big lie continually fed to us by Bush, Cheney and others in their administration in an attempt to keep knowledge of their brutal, self-serving, truly Machiavellian criminality secret from the country they were supposed to be serving, the recently released report from the Senate Armed Services Committee makes clear that one of the central reasons that the United States began – for the first time in our history – an official policy of torturing prisoners in our custody was to elicit false confessions of a link (any link) between Sadaam Hussein and Al-Qaeda so that President Bush could justify and rally support for his planned invasion of Iraq. Although the CIA had already had already made clear that there was so such link to be found, the Bush/Cheney Administration was desperate and determined to find one, even if it meant relinquishing the power of our moral example in the world, abandoning America's most cherished and central values, and turning our country, the United States of America, the same one that Ronald Reagan called a "shining city on a hill," into a torturing nation, one of the "bad guys," a trampler of the rule of law and of the commandments of common human decency.
How unbelievably, stunningly, and horribly surreal this is. What in the world has happened to us ... that in this country, this America, we're even asking the question "Does torture work?"
Jesse Ventura, Navy Seal and former pro wrestler and governor of Minnesota, a self-described Goldwater conservative, proved the deceitfulness of the Bush/Cheney pro-torture neoconservatives during an interview on May 11, 2009 with Larry King (following are excerpts from the transcript):
[Waterboarding is] drowning. It gives you the complete sensation that you're drowning. It is no good, because you – I'll put it to you this way, you give me a water board, Dick Cheney, and one hour, and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders.
That's why torture is no good in a court of law, because if you're torturing someone, they are going to tell you what they think you want to hear to stop the torture.
Let me say this: they say it's prevented things by us torturing.
If that's the case, then why haven't we caught bin Laden? Because we got his people ... and if we tortured them, they ought to be able to tell us where he's at. See, it don't work. We haven't captured bin Laden. We haven't done anything.
Torture does not work.
America is the Constitution. Absent the rule of law equally applied to all her citizens, America no longer exists. She is defeated. Dead. Gone. Torturing prisoners is against the law, and those who commit or order such serious crimesmust be punished accordingly, if America herself is to survive.
Remember George Washington, who refused to torture British prisoners during our nation's most critical time, our war for independence from England ... even though the British were torturing our own prisoners and the very survival of our newly born country was at stake?
Remember World War Two, when German soldiers fought fiercely just to be captured by the Americans rather than by the Soviets, because they knew the treatment they'd receive as U.S. prisoners would be entirely different than what they would face as Soviet captives?
Remember when we, the U.S.A., were the "good guys?" Although we've never been perfect or without sin as a nation (far from it), we used to value holding the moral high ground and for more than 200 years earned the respect and admiration of the entire world (and the eager cooperation of most of it) for doing so.
If we don't loudly and actively condemn this barbarity and act swiftly and surely to prosecute those who ordered, enabled, or committed torture in our name (remember, some detainees were tortured to death in U.S. custody – a capital crime), we risk no less than the loss of our identity as a nation that stands for, not against, the rule of law.
Manadel al-Jamadi – tortured to death in U.S. custody (Nov. 2003)
From a recent article by Juan Cole:
... Obama is unwittingly allowing the Right to lay the groundwork for permanent move to presidential dictatorship.
Obama says he doesn't want to re-litigate the last 8 years. That is frankly disingenuous. The last 8 years was never litigated.
And crimes were committed. If they are not addressed, they will become norms for the future, not just crimes of the past.
The United States must not torture – because torture is wrong, and because nothing is more profoundly un-American. And because it's illegal. And because it doesn't work. And because it works against us.
Period.
Please join with me and many, many others all across America in calling for serious congressional inquiry and the appointment of a well-funded, independent special prosecutor to investigate and hold accountable all those (from whatever political party) who so flagrantly violated our nation's most fundamental laws and values abrogating torture of detainees:
Attorney General Eric Holder
Office of the Attorney General
U.S. Department of Justice
Washington, D.C., 20530
Phone: 202-514-2001, 202-353-1555
Fax: 202-307-6777
Email: AskDOJ@usdoj.gov
President Barack Obama
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500
Phone: 202-456-1111
Fax: 202-456-2461
Email form: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/
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A man of peace pulsates a new kind of energy into the world,
he sings a new song.
He lives in a totally new way,
his very way of life is that of grace,
that of prayer, that of compassion.
Whomsoever he touches, he creates more love-energy.
The man of peace is creative.
He is not against war,
he simply understands why war exists.
Out of that understanding he becomes peaceful.
Only when there are many people
who are pools of peace, silence, and understanding,
will war disappear.
Osho
MIND CONTROL
Great post - but depressing. This does look like a controlled demolition. How could this have happened without my government's involvement?
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